@gr36 This is the point that's stopping me from writing anything. I think, regardless of intent, it will come across as 'Greg et al are wrong, they shoudl use the iPad!!' when that definitely wouldn't be the intention. It's more to counter-balance the trend that 'iOS 13 is bad!' because that's just not true for everyone. The complexity of iOS must be so vast now, from a code-base point of view, and so many variables to consider (device type, apps installed, apps used etc. etc.) that could cause a bug for some and not others, that's doesn't seem to really be taken into account.